Seeking Advice: Feeder Guild Syndrome

Being a guild leader is sometimes like trying to herd cats who have been hitting the bottle (and possibly the LSD). At any given time, a few members will be angry about something, a few members will be pleading with everyone to just get along, and a select few will fall into both categories at the same time. Some members will complain that the guild isn’t doing enough, and then those same people will never show up to any planned guild events. Some guilds seem to operate in perfect harmony, and a lot of that has to be due to good recruitment policies and a great guild leadership structure. God bless guild leaders. Truly.

One of the hazards of running a mid-tier guild is becoming a feeder guild for the big guilds. It doesn’t feel good to work hard on recruitment in order to organize bigger and better raids and events, only to have people gear up and move on to the top-tier guilds that they now qualify for. This seems to be a disease that often affects “family” guilds who also raid, which makes it all the more painful when you feel like you’ve gotten to really know someone, only to have them ditch Friendly Family Guild for Awesome MegaGuild. And when you’re working hard to try to become Friendly Family Awesome MegaGuild, it feels like a step backward.

I know, I know, this is all part of the game, and turnover is inevitable, and now that I tend to be in Tiny Silly Social Guild(s), it isn’t really something that affects me personally, but I was wondering if any guild leaders, officers, or rank and file members out there had experiences they’d like to share, or any advice on how to avoid becoming a pass-through for bigger guilds.

And thank you for reading. It means a lot to me.

 

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4 thoughts on “Seeking Advice: Feeder Guild Syndrome

    1. So around 2013 I think it was, the guild I currently run was on the ropes. It was founded on the first day our server opened in January of 2009. There had been a few guild leaders over the years, but so many people from those early days had gone elsewhere or just stopped playing. At the time there were maybe 50 characters in the guild, which was really only about 8-9 accounts. So I had asked the person who was running it, but was taking a break if I could recruit some people. She said sure go ahead, I found 30 people had requests in to join that no one ever noticed, and quickly we were seeing 15 people on at night from 2. I never wanted to be the GM, but to save the guild from just disappearing I asked if she wanted me to run it. I think it was just what she wanted to hear. She had a baby on the way, and all of the people she played with had stopped playing. So over the next two years I started recruiting, started reformatting the guild, updating ranks, fixing the bank. It was a full time job. But one day we were over 500 members, and we had two raid teams, people who did PvP, I organized a few server events, I was active in the forums, talked about this great casual guild on Twitter, made a server Facebook group for both of our factions. We kept growing, 10 would join, 3-4 would leave. At first it was upsetting, omg why did they leave, did someone say something. I talked to a lot of people, most just said it wasn’t a good fit, too big, not enough on during the day, more progression, higher ranked PvP. We have had our drama, I lost most of my officers and some raiders when they server transferred looking for more higher raiding opportunities. And I replaced them with newer people. I’ve had some of those just walk away from WoW. But through it all we have kept our core guild charter intact. I’ve had the guild capped at 1000 many times, I have members of the military that are deployed and I don’t know if they will ever be back, but I keep them in. We had a gentleman in his 60’s that went to the Phillipenes and passed away more than a year ago. As a favor to his son, he is still in the guild. Right now we have a good group, I have a co-GM that is our raid leader who is fantastic. My wife helps me keep from kicking everyone, and other officers that I trust implicitly. It’s taken a long time. I no longer worry about people that come and go. We aren’t for everyone, but we all get along and try to have fun.

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      1. When you read comments from other guild leaders, and they mention it’s like herding cats, that statement is not far off the mark. It has very few rewards, and comes with a great deal of headaches, but it is a job that not many can do.

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